On a Scale from One to Ten, He Was an Imperfect Ten(nstedt)

On a Scale from One to Ten, He Was an Imperfect Ten(nstedt)

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Klaus Tennstedt was a mess. But when he came to Philadelphia, his concerts were always something special. Never pedestrian. He was especially celebrated for his Mahler, a composer with whom he shared a neurotic affinity.

He suffered from a fragile ego, crippling stage-fright, ailments real and imagined, and absolute cluelessness as to how to navigate the world. He lived only for music, cigarettes, and women.

He is a prime example of a magnetic interpreter whose power didn’t always transfer to his recordings. Or if it did, it often seemed as if it was at a remove. Which I realize is a ridiculous thing to say. Listening to a recording can’t possibly be the same as being there. But in concert, you got the full package. The last thing on Tennstedt’s mind was “posterity.” A live performance lives in the moment. You experienced the musicmaking in your heart and in your gut.

I was just thinking about Tennstedt last week and wondering if I was as crazy as he was. On one memorable occasion, I attended one of his concerts with no less than three girlfriends (at the time, two former and one current). To my knowledge, that’s the only time I ever did that.

Tennstedt might have been the sweatiest conductor I ever saw. The guy always looked like he just rolled out of bed, badly shaken by the night terrors. He was an interesting character. The world of classical music is a lot blander without him.

Saluting him on the 100th anniversary of his birth.

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Live performance of Mahler Symphony No. 3


Richard Strauss, “Four Last Songs”


Sweaty Wagner fest!


An interesting write-up, in connection with a Tennstedt biography

https://classicalvoiceamerica.org/2023/07/27/tennstedt-bio-shows-great-maestro-at-odds-with-himself-and-world/


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87 responses to “On a Scale from One to Ten, He Was an Imperfect Ten(nstedt)”

  1. Anonymous

    saw him conduct Beethoven’s Seventh Symphony with the NY Philharmonic sometime around 1980 or so. Magnificent!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Tom Beck Wonderful!

  2. Anonymous

    Saw a great deal of him in London in the ‘80’s…..you never knew what to expect, neither it seems did the orchestra half the time – some performances were white knuckle rides.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Julian Grant I am thankful I got to see so many great conductors in the ’80s. I wish I had seen more!

    2. Anonymous

      Julian Grant and if he would even show up….

  3. Anonymous

    Wait… women??? I thought his wife was with him at all times!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Evan Tucker Apparently, she tolerated a lot. And she must have loved him very much, as she basically smoothed his entire existence. John Willan, manager of the London Philharmonic, mentions in that article I link that he had lunch with Tennstedt once, only to learn that she had agreed to wait for him in the car!

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico love or not, i guess trauma bonding had a lot to do with it…

  4. Anonymous

    E stato un ottimo direttore in Mahler, ma mai come Claudio Abbado

  5. Anonymous

    Saw him in London with Lucia Popp in Richard Strauss’ Four Last Songs. A cherished memory.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Hugh Palmer Their studio recording is wonderful. You are very lucky indeed to have heard them perform it live!

  6. Anonymous

    I did a fabulous Fidelio with him at the Met!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Lou Kosma Wow! So you were in the pit with him? Any interesting anecdotes or observations?

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico Wonderfully exciting and very powerful performance.

      2. Anonymous

        I think I have the live radio broadcast on tape. He came back and did one rehearsal on Elektra but was too ill to stay. We never saw him again.

      3. Classic Ross Amico

        Lou Kosma That’s too bad. I imagine he could have conducted a dynamite Elektra. Thank you for your remarks. If that Fidelio was in the early ’80s, you played through a great era.

      4. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico I was there from the end of 1978 until 2014

      5. Classic Ross Amico

        Lou Kosma Wow! So I probably heard you a number of times. My first trip to the Met was for Renata Scotto’s farewell as Butterfly in 1987, but I’ve gone a lot more frequently in the 21st century. I think 2014 was around the time of Renée Fleming’s last “Rusalka.” I was at the final dress rehearsal, I think, and I passed Dmitri Hvorostovsky getting off an elevator. He must have been there on some other business, or just to watch. Sadly, it’s the only time I ever saw him.

      6. Anonymous

        Lou Kosma I still pinch myself that you guys let me watch an Elektra orchestra reading. I sat with Werner Klemperer who had his father’s full score in his lap, letting me follow along with him. The score was a gift from Mahler, if I understand correctly. Still gobsmacked. Thank you for your support! Always wishing you and yours well.

      7. Anonymous

        Greg Sarchet Colonel Klink.😲

    2. Anonymous

      Lou Kosma I attended a Fidelio performance, one even more intense than the subsequent broadcast. On my way out, I encountered a neighbor, a long-time double-bassist in the orchestra, muttering “great performance, great performance, great performance” as if still under its spell. Tennstedt’s ability to reach the back of the orchestra that way was part of his greatness.

      1. Classic Ross Amico

        Lots of great stuff in this thread. Thank you for contributing.

      2. Anonymous

        Manny Nadelman sounds like MT.

    3. Anonymous

      Lou Kosma most likely Jan of 84, alternating Hildegard Behrens and Eva Marton. Jon Vickers, Paul Plishka. It doesn’t get any better than that

  7. Anonymous

    And in what way was Klaus Tennstedt a mess? Where you his agent? His secretary? His driver? His personal assistant?

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Alberto Hold-Garrido I linked this article in my post (see below). It’s only one of a number of things I read about him over the past week. I apologize if I offend, but Tennstedt being a mess was the first thing that came off my fingers. It’s a good hook. I thought about it, and I’m fine with it. Anyway, I doubt anything I write will hurt Klaus Tennstedt (whose talent, by the way, I admired — as I hoped would be obvious).

      https://classicalvoiceamerica.org/2023/07/27/tennstedt-bio-shows-great-maestro-at-odds-with-himself-and-world/

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico
        Alles klar!

  8. Anonymous

    In the summer of 1979, I think it was, I and my cultivated gf (now longtime wife) were apartment-sitting in Boston for my friend and mentor Michael Steinberg, who was out in Tanglewood and largely unreachable, and one night at perhaps 1-2a the phone rang and when I picked up this loud voice said ‘Ist Herr Doktor Tennstedt, ist Michael da ?!’

    I wondered how he could possibly not know it was in the wee hours on the East Coast, and I who speak only a little German explained the situation, and as Tennstedt’s English was okay, we had a little chat and in response to his questioning I told him who I was (lower-tier classical critic) and how much I enjoyed his recent BSO work (and had written as much) and he went on about what a good friend to him Steinberg was and I replied I was sorry I did not have his Lenox phone number. Etc.

    So while not exactly qualifying as a mess, it was an odd and in hindsight rather droll experience.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      David Moran Great story! Thanks for sharing. 1 or 2 a.m. This is totally something I would imagine he would do! 😄

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico
        Entirely welcome

    2. Anonymous

      Having heard with Boston, he conducted so often, that Tanglewood concert was perhaps his greatest, it was all Wagner, with Jesse Norman, I am amazed that this concert hasn’t made it to streaming. It would be a great fund raiser for the BSO!

      1. Classic Ross Amico

        Peter Grant Pierce I did a quick Google search, and if the concert took place in 1979, it appears at least some of the performances (Prelude & Liebestod, Tannhauser Overture and Venusberg Music, Dich teure halle, Allmächtige Jungfrauare — perhaps others?) are posted on YouTube.

      2. Anonymous

        I will search for them

  9. Anonymous

    It was an amazing time to be there 🙏

  10. Anonymous

    I heard Tennstedt conduct the National Symphony Orchestra many years ago. I never forgot it.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Robin Friedman He was scheduled to do the Barber Adagio, Prokofiev Piano Concerto No. 3 (with Alexander Toradze), and Shostakovich Symphony No. 5 at the Kennedy Center with the Philadelphia Orchestra in 1985. (I know this, because I heard the same program with Tennstedt in Philadelphia.) Unfortunately, he had to cancel due to ill health, leaving the orchestra’s very capable associate conductor, William Smith, to carry on in his stead.

    2. Anonymous

      Yes, I remember this. But he did conduct the NSO some years earlier.

      1. Classic Ross Amico

        Robin Friedman Oh, I wasn’t correcting you; merely adding!

  11. Anonymous

    When I read again of someone in states like that I am greatly saddened.
    That’s because the world is overflowing with every imaginable type of help for every type of problem.0
    I write as a retired psychotherapist.
    Of course there are Innumerable problems peopple face and a different response from each person.
    Naturally I in no way seek to blame anyone. Knowing just a little of what is available. I am left feeling sad, whatever anyone else thinks.
    Thank heavens for his legacy, both recordings and memories.

  12. Anonymous

    Saw him do Bruckner 8 in Philadelphia. He looked like a swaying stork on the podium.
    The power was undeniable.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Mark Leporati I saw him do the 7th there. Paul Tortelier playing Tchaikovsky’s “Rococo Variations” on the first half. The perspiring stork was in his element.

  13. Anonymous

    I was lucky to play under him as a Fellowship student at Tanglewood in the 70’s. It was one of the most inspiring times!! Bruckner 4.

    1. Anonymous

      He was fabulous with Bruckner

  14. Anonymous

    A mess? Hardly!!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Alan Robert Booth I linked this article in my post (see below). It’s only one of a number of things I read about him over the past week. I apologize if I offend, but Tennstedt being a mess was the first thing that came off my fingers. It’s a good hook. I thought about it, and I’m fine with it. Anyway, I doubt anything I write will hurt Klaus Tennstedt (whose talent, by the way, I admired — as I hoped would be obvious).

      https://classicalvoiceamerica.org/2023/07/27/tennstedt-bio-shows-great-maestro-at-odds-with-himself-and-world/

  15. Anonymous

    I only saw him once, conducting Fidelio at the Met. He was phenomenal.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Ignacio Martinez-Ybor If you scroll through the other comments, you will find other people who attended those performances and one who actually played in the pit!

      1. Anonymous

        Thank you. It’s sort of delightful when it surfaces that you were at the same (event or series of events) with the same people. I remember Tennsted’s Leonore #3 was hair-raising.

  16. Anonymous

    Try this for some of the most wonderful Wagner I have ever heard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYtUmzaVc_s

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Nicholas Braithwaite Absolutely. It’s the same link I included in my post above. Thank you for many fine recordings, sir! I own and have broadcast a lot of them, especially those you made for the Lyrita label. They have given me a lot of pleasure.

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico Thank you!

  17. Anonymous

    Dad sang (and recorded) with him quite a bit and it was always very positive. He was a great artist!

    1. Anonymous

      Danielle Krause and so was your dad, magnificent!

      1. Anonymous

        Gary Prior that is so kind of you, thank you 🙏

      2. Anonymous

        Danielle, sadly, I never got to hear him live. Thank heavens for the recordings!

  18. Anonymous

    Didnt he die from cancer?

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Wim Kok Throat cancer. He was taken too soon at 71.

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico ah. The smoking did it, eh?

  19. Anonymous

    I, too, saw his Fidelio at the Met, some NY Philharmonic guest appearances and a memorable Mahler 7 with Philadelphia. He could be incredibly persuasive on the podium and I still have some old air checks.

  20. Anonymous

    All true. And a wonderful if uneven artist

  21. Anonymous

    He was our principal guest conductor of the Minnesota Orchestra. The concerts and the rehearsals with him were outstanding, inspiring and memorable. When he’d say “it must be!!” Somehow it happened and our music-making brought many of us to tears. He loved to play ping pong with the musicians, yes drink beer, yes smoke but he was never a “mess”. True he was physically awkward at times. An amusing memory: Once he almost toppled onto me and my cello, but I immediately steadied him. I stood, reached forward and I grabbed his shoulders with both hands, the cello between us! he was so apologetic saying over and over what about the cello? What about the cello? (Unharmed) His appearances here were the highlight of my career.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Thank you for these warm recollections!

  22. Anonymous

    I wish I was old enough to hear him live. I rarely ever go for any studio recordings, but the live recordings are overwhelming: Berlin Bruckner 8, Minnesota Mahler 3, the famous LPO live Mahler 6 7 8 at the very tail end, the Philadelphia Mahler 9. Glagolitic Mass. Beethoven 3 7 9. LPO Brahms 1. These are all performances beyond virtually anybody else, combining the best elements of Furtwangler and Klemperer but with an emotional vulnerability that exceeds either.

  23. Anonymous

    Uneven, but never boring or routine.
    I have just listened to his Brahms 1 with London Phil and it is just heavenly.👨‍🎓🏳️‍🌈👨‍🎓✋️

  24. Anonymous

    His concerts were the most memorable during my almost 50-year career here at the Minnesota Orchestra. There wasn’t anything the players wouldn’t do for him!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Eric Sjöström I appreciate all these insights from musicians and people who actually got to work with him. You are fortunate to have had those experiences! Thanks for commenting.

  25. Anonymous

    Unforgettable playing under him in the Israel Philharmonic. Dvorak8, Bruckner 4, Mahler 1, 3,5,7; Blacher Paganini Variations. 45 + – years ago and the memories are still fresh.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Eli Eban I will never know experiences like these, save vicariously, through comments like yours, and as a grateful listener. Thank you.

  26. Anonymous

    Recording of Strauss Vier Letzte Lieder with Popp, the best I’ve ever heard.

  27. Anonymous

    I loved him. A genuine musician

  28. Anonymous

    Best Rienzi Overture ever.

  29. Anonymous

    I don’t care about you or girlfriends. Jesus!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Steve Bielski You are welcome not to read, sir, but I hope your comment allowed you to work out some frustrations. Wishing you all the best. 😘

      1. Anonymous

        Oh yes…..I satisfy my frustrations by reading your self serving Valentines to yourself disguised as classical music commentary. There, now I feel better……

      2. Classic Ross Amico

        Steve Bielski Look, I’m sure you’re a decent guy and your friends and your family love you. What happens on my Facebook page stays on my Facebook page. This is not my issue. Go in peace!

  30. Anonymous

    I went up and added a comment to the “Sweaty Wagner fest!” which has time links to each work on the program
    2:10 Tannhauser Overture and Venusberg music
    26:57 Rienzi Overture
    40:16 Gotterdammerung Dawn and Siegfried’s Rhine Journey and Siegfried’s Funeral March
    01:02:12 Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg Act 1 Prelude
    01:14:01Die Walkure Ride of the Valkyries

  31. Anonymous

    When I was a kid I went by myself to Carnegie Hall and somehow got a front row seat for old
    Josef Krips conducting the Brahms 4th. He was very active, sweat profusely and it all fell on me in the front row!

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Well, I guess conductors ARE bundled up in crowded halls under hot lights doing aerobic exercise. Some discreetly dab their brow with a kerchief between movements. Others, it’s a blessing when they aren’t caught in close-up on video (or in the front row). Josef Krips, sweating like a rock star!

  32. Anonymous

    “He lived only for music, cigarettes, and women”….How right he was! 😀

  33. Anonymous

    I was talking to a friend who was in the LPO with him, when the LPO was making all the famous Mahler recordings. They said that often none of them knew what was going on, but that magic spontaneously happened. Here is another one to add to the list of live performances. The end of Mahler 8. Two of my friends were in the orchestra, and speak with great fondness of this concert.

    https://youtu.be/i9HuoUW64wk?si=JOLACiI4_E_3eULk

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      John Brennan And this, ladies and gentleman, is the mystery of great conducting! It defies analysis, transcending chemistry to border on a kind of alchemy.

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico at its best, it is telepathy, between conductor and players. Something just happens, and it defies explanation. The partnership between Tennstedt and LPO was just that, for me.

      2. Classic Ross Amico

        John Brennan Telepathy! Yes! Well done.

  34. Anonymous

    Loved his performances in Boston.

  35. Anonymous

    He did not get along with the ndr radio symphony. He was too good for them and they were too lazy. So he was kicked out.

  36. Anonymous

    The LPO Wagner recordings on YouTube are glorious.

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