Changing of the Guard on “Exploring Music”

Changing of the Guard on “Exploring Music”

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Bill McGlaughlin, founding host of the long-running radio show “Exploring Music,” is being “sunsetted” (to borrow a euphemism used by a certain dastardly former employer of 25+ years, who gave me the axe by email). It’s a piece of news that’s already grown whiskers, announced by Chicago’s WFMT on December 10, but I only just learned about it over the weekend, when it was passed along to me by a listener.

It’s not unusual for syndicated shows to rerun material, and McGlaughlin, like the rest of us, has been known to dip into the archive. “Exploring Music” airs weeknights (five shows in a series) and each week delves into a different theme. In what I presume have been some of the more recent installments, Bill has been in very bad voice – raspy and painful to listen to, not purely from an aesthetic standpoint, but because it’s sounded as if it couldn’t be the most comfortable for him. I was hoping it was just a cold, but it’s possible there is more to it. Time passes, and McGlaughlin is 82 years-old.

This is sad news, no doubt, for his fans. McGlaughlin – a former trombonist with the Philadelphia Orchestra and Pittsburgh Symphony, associate conductor of the Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra, and music director of the symphony orchestras of Eugene, Tucson, and Kansas City – has been a radio presence for decades, at least as far back as “Saint Paul Sunday Morning,” an informal mix of chat and chamber music, with live guests. (“Morning” was later dropped from the title, presumably to allow greater flexibility in scheduling.) The show ran from 1980 to 2007.

In 2003, McGlaughlin added “Exploring Music” to his quiver. In many markets, it gradually superseded Karl Haas’ “Adventures in Good Music,” distributed by WCLV. “Adventures in Good Music” began airing nationally in 1970 (expanding on its local run in Detroit, beginning in 1959). Haas continued to record new shows until his retirement at the age of 89. He died two years later, in 2005. Shows were available for rebroadcast until 2007. Both Haas’ and McGlaughlin’s programs were geared toward music education and thrived on public radio.

The good news, at least for me personally, is that McGlauglin will be succeeded by none other than Peter Van De Graaff, another voice familiar to classic music radio audiences, largely through his producing and hosting duties on the Beethoven Satellite Network, like “Exploring Music,” distributed by WFMT. BSN syndicates varied and thoughtful programming of complete works and far-reaching repertoire for enjoyment during the overnight hours or times when live, local hosts are unavailable. The service is vastly superior to the overexposed Classical 24, distributed by Minnesota Public Radio, with its chatty, inane hosts and playlists of chopped-up, endlessly recycled top-40 classics. Peter was program director at KWAX when I began my independent syndication there in 2023. In 2010, he was awarded the Karl Haas Prize for Music Education.

A professional bass-baritone, Van De Graaff has been associated with WFMT since 1989. I listened to his syndicated programming in the afternoons on WWFM for years before I started there in 1995. I have no hesitation in saying, in terms of programming and delivery, he is my favorite classical music radio host of all time. It remains to be seen how he will adapt the “Exploring Music” format, but I look forward to yet another opportunity to welcome him into my living room.

Van De Graaff will assume hosting duties on March 30. McGlaughlin claims that the terms of his departure were not mutual. Hardly shocking in the world of radio. Classical music broadcasting, which brings pleasure, beauty, and consolation to so many, ironically, is not a field for the faint of heart.

https://symphony.org/personnel-changes-at-chicagos-wfmt-classical-station/

Here’s the press release, with a glimpse at some of Peter’s upcoming, intriguing programs:

https://www.wfmt.com/2025/12/10/exploring-music-new-season/


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20 responses to “Changing of the Guard on “Exploring Music””

  1. Anonymous

    Terrible! I had a friend in radio, who described what he had seen: announcer is told to go to a commercial, his Mike was silenced, had to clean out his personal effects, while the new host took over.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Bill Zeltman Unusual to get kicked off mid air-shift, but I’ve had some harrowing meetings and conversations just before having to go live — sometimes while literally seated at the board — and then I’m expected to put on a cheery voice. Cluelessness, mind games, power trips, or just plain thoughtlessness. I was pretty resilient, considering. I worked with a lot of great people, but a few bad eggs. Generally speaking, hosts are from Venus, management is from Mars. I should have gone from radio to rodeo, because I certainly learned how to hold on tight. It was only COVID that finally knocked me out of the box. When you’re not there for a face to face, it’s easier for them to let you go. We all have our war stories. I could write a book.

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico no doubt! Some day I’ll tell you about music education in the schools

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Pete Foltz Around the clock “Daisy Bell.” (“Daisy, Daisy, tell me your answer, doooo…”)

  2. Anonymous

    I was worried that Bill had something more serious than a cold. He sounded terrible for a while. And as you say, there may indeed be more to it. In any event, I will miss him. Such a pleasant personality! I’m sorry he’s leaving against his will.

    Didn’t Peter Van De Graaff have a stint for a while? Like maybe a late evening g program? I remember liking him too.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Betty Steckman Yes, Peter Van De Graaff was on from noon to 3:00 during the week and midnight to 6:00, via the Beethoven Satellite Network, produced for WFMT. He got the boot, because it was easier to automate the rival, much inferior service, Classical 24, out of Minnesota, which ultimately led to the elimination of local hosts.

  3. Anonymous

    I remember listening to Karl Haas, although I don’t remember which station. I do remember WRTI – HD would air Exploring Music at 6pm, so maybe I heard them from the web stream. Van De Graaff I’ve heard for a number of years across many stations.Media: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10226527453047645&set=p.10226527453047645&type=3

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Kenneth Hutchins FUN FACT: Karl Haas’ Chamber Music Society of Detroit was responsible for commissioning Samuel Barber’s “Summer Music.” I had no idea until I read about it in Howard Pollack’s Barber biography. I actually met Haas once, many years ago, when he came to town to perform a benefit concert for the station. Met McGlaughlin too, for that matter, at another station event. Now that I think about it, I also ran the board, in-studio, during a simulcast of a Bernard Herrmann concert he co-hosted from DC. Could it have been as recently as 2019? The concert, with the PostClassical Ensemble at Washington National Cathedral, included Herrmann’s music for Norman Corwin’s radio drama “Whitman.” It was recorded and issued, not long after, on the Naxos label.

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico I think I have the Whitman recording.

    2. Anonymous

      Kenneth Hutchins Karl Haas was amazing! I loved hearing him.

  4. Anonymous

    I played under McGlaughlin in the late 1980s when I was briefly second trumpet with the Tucson Symphony Orchestra — and he actually came up on stage during the audition to stand next to me and conduct me with his hands in the Mahler 3rd posthorn solo. Yes, a very warm and friendly guy — though I could tell a few stories about his conducting! 😉 His dear, grandfatherly presence will be missed.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      John Kececioglu Ha! That’s great! I too have some McGlaughlin stories. Nothing scandalous, but I won’t post them on Facebook until everyone’s been dead for at least 20 years (including me).

  5. Anonymous

    Sharon Wilson had a stint at San Antonio classical station, name circa 1980ish, and Karl Haas booked a lecture visit — her husband taught singing at that UT branch, wangled an invite, I educe. She mentioned Haas was quite short and held her hand as she led him through airport encounter to station interview. His radio presence came on air twice daily on local NPR branch here in Oregon.
    Naturally his radio presence was gigantic.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      SW Paul Mack Physically, he WAS rather diminutive in stature. By the time I met him, he had to be well into his 80s. Beethoven’s “Pathétique” Sonata is spoiled for me forever. Whenever I hear the slow movement (Haas’ signature music), I hear, “Hello, Everyone!”

      1. Anonymous

        Classic Ross Amico Sharon was often casually callous about people, Which made me suspect she was catty about me too!

  6. Anonymous

    I felt I had to withdraw my support from one station that did this.

  7. Anonymous

    Correction: Peter was not the GM at KWAX, he was the program director. And while I do agree that radio, even classical music radio can be “fraught” with breakdowns between the active radio professionals and those who license or administrate, I think there is often blame to go around. I think it is generally risky also for those not answering directly to management to lose sight of boundaries. Mr. McGlaughlin is someone I call a friend; I’ve had the honor and pleasure of interviewing him and I am indeed saddened by this turn of events. He is one of the most brilliant people I have ever met, charming and with a fantastic sense of humor.

    1. Classic Ross Amico

      Kimberly Powell Thanks for the clarification, Kimberly. I’ll make the correction about Peter’s title in the post. I’m off-site, and I usually go through Rocky, so I always assumed Peter was “the boss.” Anyway, he’s like a demi-god to me. It’s unfortunate about Bill. In my perverse way, I was offering my sympathy, since I too got the heave-ho from my former station, after the COVID shutdown, along with all the other local hosts, after having been strung along for a couple of years. They say there are two sides to every story, and I’ve seen probably “Rashomon” more times than most, but I can’t really see how in this case there is blame to go around. But that’s not what the post is about. I wish Bill good health and hope there will be other radio opportunities, perhaps special one-off programs, for him to host in the future.

  8. Anonymous

    I remember him well from his days with the SPCO.

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